She didn’t explain WHY they were “unfit” to be Prime Minister… and more to the point why she thinks that she is.
In that case I apologise unreservedly for any offense caused. I do hope you continue to contribute - when time allows - because your contributions are always insightful & worth reading (even when I don’t always agree with them )
Thanks. I don’t tolerate any form of sexism in my life. Hence some perceived ambiguity here about an issue I consider to be important, which touched a raw nerve. To be clear, no male chauvinists abided here. This confused matter is now over & history as far as I’m concerned.
Also an apology from me for any slight caused to anyone here.
FWIW, there are probably as many women politicians I admire as there are men, though admittedly not many of either gender from the current lot. I’d only make an exception with the late Tony Benn, who stood out for me as a political giant. But I’ve previously said that I’d certainly welcome the very capable Yvette Cooper as Labour leader, no less than Hilary Benn or Keir Starmer.
I’ve certainly previously criticised Clegg quite harshly & fairly often whenever I spoke about the late Lib Dem leader, Charles Kennedy, which was the last time I voted Lib Dems. I agree with JW that Swinson may not last as long as some of her more ardent supporters wish to think.
The way to stop Brexit is to form close political alliances. That takes compromise on all sides, including from both Labour & Lib Dems. - GL.
Quite… and NOT to engage in gutter politics trying to discredit individuals simply to get soundbites and airtime. Would be better if they tried to rise above that and discuss policies.
FIAT - hi
Maybe they could spot a hard-left, terrorist-supporting, pacifist, unpatriotic, tolerator of anti-semitism when they saw one?
JW - hi
I’m surprised you think that of Corbyn!
I thought you were a great supporter of him
It is very clear that you are a supporter of the racist and islamophobic Johnson…
Are you saying that you have given all your money to climate change research? You put your house in order already? I gave up car ownership 22 years ago, as one example. What have you done?
But still jetting off between uk and Poland regularly?
We’ll be hearing next that it’s OK because he carbon offset it with his solar funds…
Why are you repeating exactly what I said?
His first big failing was to decide to support Remain when everyone knew he didn’t. I still don’t really understand what corner he believed he was in to do that. I agree, when it came to the big issue he was found wanting in personal integrity when he started playing politics with an open vote.
The anti-semitism thing. I’ve never bought it personally.
It smacked of the hubris of someone who has started to believe a political miracle might be about to happen. No chance in our parliamentary system. There is EVERY chance she’ll have to make a coalition with one of those two leaders, so where does she stand politically at that point after THAT statement.
If politics is anything it is the art of keeping your options open in the future in order to be able to press your own views and policy preferences. Swinson showed herself to have not grasped that fundamental it seems to me … or more likely lost it in the heat of the moment (and limelight) which in itself shows she is unfit to be P.M. herself.
All of British politics is about building a consensus and compromise, even within a cabinet with a working majority.
Imagine if the election leaves the Tories as the largest party but no majority and Swinson has excluded herself from a coalition with Labour. She’s playing politics with the country’s future, it seems to me, and that is as bad as the approaches from Johnson, May and Cameron that led to the whole Brexit mess in the first place.
I guarantee you it wont be. It will be dragged up every PMQs when the opposition leader will accuse whoever it is as P.M. that they are held in power only by a party who holds them personally in contempt.
NOTHING said (or tweeted or posted) in politics is EVER forgotten these days. Her statement was crass in the circumstances as I have said in other responses. As was her ill-judged (in my opinion) rush to bring on an election.
Besides Winston Churchill, can you think of any others who didn’t? Some real heavyweights tried to start the SDP and look what happened to them.
The individual has to be remarkable in our system if they are to survive swapping horses midstream - even more so if they try to start a new party or stand as an independent. Building up a whole new grassroots support system for a new party, or beating the existing ones in your constituency as an independent, is no simple task.
I expect such an answer would go on for several hours…
I’ll probably be voting for her party, by the way.
The way to stop Brexit is to form close political alliances. That takes compromise on all sides, including from both Labour & Lib Dems. - GL
JW Hi I agree with JD on this
I support Liverpool (beat city 3-1 today) but when Everton are playing other teams I get behind them (often disappointed)
I have really been hoping for a Lib / Lab pact to fight TORY BREXIT which most sensible people can see is a RW fraud…
I have been disappointed in labour when we could have had a VONC if they had agreed to a neutral leader as other parties did.
When they didn’t come out for Remain but some kind of LEXIT
now I wish they would agree to some kind of tactical agreement lie other parties are doing, imagine the message if labour stood aside and redwood / Moggy etc lost their seats…
As I have said I will never vote Tory again but could get behind labour if they change a little…
I seen this showing the effect of tactical voting and if the Tories keep going the way they are with trying to hide things like the Russian enquiry could be even better…
I’m not the one pretending the Green’s unicorn policy is anything but utter hogwash.
Let’s hear from both of you how we have a zero carbon economy by 2030 and I’ll point out to you why it isn’t going to happen and what sacrifices you both have to make and why it wont ‘save the planet’ if we attempt to go it alone anyway.
Or keep your petty sniping to yourselves.
Getting touchy Eadwig? I wasn’t attacking you. All I was doing with flights to Poland was putting that up against your boast that you gave up your car years ago.
Regarding becoming carbon neutral in 30 years, there are plans as to how this could be done. Generating carbon free energy is the easy bit the difficult bits are energy storage at scale and technologies for carbon capture and removal from the atmosphere.
Whether we manage to actually become carbon neutral or not in 30 years is debatable but what is not debatable is that there does need to be a massive reduction in the production of greenhouse gasses.
I am sure that you don’t think that we should not even try?
Frog in a tree