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#2900

Arron Banks really is a scum-bucket.


#2901

Of course, Thunberg is very much brighter than the Boneheaded Right-wing knuckledragging Climate change deniers, including Banks, Farage and The Groper.

Good luck to Greta in her mission. She speaks for many of us.

Frog in a tree


#2902

stange how so many Brexiters are racist and trump supporters and Climate change deniers’

Trump on climate change… who cares about future generations ??


#2903

…and on the subject of beautiful crystal clear water:

Frog in a tree


#2904

Well worth a read on the Brexit Party and their views on Climate Change. What a bunch of arses.


Farage has a history of spreading misinformation about climate science, of which DeSmog has kept track over the years. He told an interviewer in 2013: “I’m all for pollution controls but to obsess with carbon dioxide, which as I understand it, is a perfectly natural occurring phenomenon, strikes me as strange.”

Farage has also called wind energy “the biggest collective economic insanity I’ve seen in my entire life.” That would be the cheapest source of new power, along with solar, energy experts now say.

Under his watch, UKIP’s 2015 and 2017 general election manifestos pledged to rip up green measures, including a promise to repeal the UK’s Climate Change Act, withdraw from the Paris Agreement and spur on fracking.

On the day of the Brexit Party launch, Farage told BBC Radio 4 there was “no difference between the Brexit party and UKIP in terms of policy,” which gives an indication of where the Brexit Party stands on climate change.

source: https://www.desmog.co.uk/2019/05/01/brexit-party-climate-science-deniers?amp


#2905

Everyday…

…companies report how Brexit is damaging their businesses. We can be sure that if they are being damaged so are the livelihoods of their staff.

Frog in a tree


#2906

My guess is that a Unity government led by Ken Clarke as PM and Harriet Harman as his deputy would stand a chance of getting sufficient Parliamentary support…assuming that Corbyn doesn’t have a tantrum because he didn’t get what he wanted (to be PM himself).

A Unity government is guaranteed to stop ‘No’ deal Brexit (as far as I can tell) but may be difficult to get support. I believe it could also be formed quite late, with a ‘No’ confidence vote circa 2 weeks before the 31st October cliff edge.


#2907

You could email Corbyn to urge him to stand aside in the national interest.

jeremy.corbyn.mp@parliament.uk

Frog in a tree


#2908

Any normal person I probably would…but this is Corbyn we are talking about. He has shown that he doesn’t change his mind. The Labour anti-semitic issue and 2nd referendum debate rather proves that.

I suppose I could sign my email ‘Vladimir Putin’ and he might take more interest in it :wink:


#2909

I think if enough people do it, it has an impact. Of course JC doesn’t see them personally but his office does.

Frog


#2910

Everyone likes to blame Brexit when it suits - but hasn’t the majority of the past 3 years been a spectacular bull run?
Profits are hit - blame Brexit
Share prices down - blame Brexit

Let’s just ignore the fact that many companies are simply over valued. Let’s ignore the fact that there is a large trade war. Let’s ignore the fact there’s political unrest in HongKong. Let’s ignore the tension in the Middle East. Let’s ignore the fact that output in Germany is falling. Let’s ignore the fact that markets are cyclical.

At the heart of it, I think Brexit was partially to blame for the 2008 recession; after all, it appears to be the single cause of all that is wrong with the financial markets.

Sarcastic rant over.


#2911

And who has said that?

You just made it up.


#2912

Looking at the FTSE 100 and 250 charts since 2016, what you actually see is that after the referendum in June 2016 there was a jump in the stock market. This was caused by the devaluation of sterling caused by Brexit. Then if you look at the levels since, you will see that we are now where we were after that rise and at roughly the levels we were at at the beginning of 2017. Currently the ftse average p/e is just under 16 so down a bit from the post referendum period but roughly what would be considered average.

You are right that markets are cyclical and also that the tariff wars are having an effect on markets. The world markets may, just may, be on the brink of recession and this is not caused by Brexit but more by The Groper’s destabilising trade wars. The point being made by most economists is that if we do Brexit that is when the problems start for us, even more so if there is a no deal Brexit. All the Treasury projections are that our economy will be hurt by Brexit. Doing Brexit in the teeth of of world recession is a particularly worrying prospect.

A lot of people do understand that manufacturing and farming industries could be damaged by Brexit but fewer understand that our most successful industry, financial services would be more seriously, if less visibly, damaged as big parts decamp to the eurozone and take with them billions in Treasury receipts.

If you voted Leave and our economy is damaged then you will own it.

Frog in a tree


#2913

It was sarcasm, as stated in my post.

The point is, people are only blaming Brexit


#2914

Only blaming Brexit for what?

I’ve seen people referring to GBPxxx rates but what are you referring to with respect to the markets?


#2915

Every stake holder owns it; I suggest people get on board and make the best of it. It actually won a majority vote.

Again, the point of my post is that no one knows if we will be better or worse off post Brexit. And you know what, if I lose 2% (arbitrary value) of my income due to price fluctuations or reduction of growth (whatever economists predict) then I’m fine with that. Many citizens don’t appreciate how hard others in the world have it and there’s more to life than a new car every 3 years


#2916

I am not going to own it. When it goes pear shaped I will lay the blame at the feet of people like you, saying “we told you so!”.

Still it ain’t over yet.

Cheers,

Frog in a tree


#2917

Of course you do, you’re an integral part of the system! And rather than dwelling the on fact that you voted the other way, you have the opportunity to contribute and make It as successful as it can be.

Or you can chop your nose off…

Just don’t vote Jeremy Cornyn, please


#2918

What are you imagining that Frog or anyone else will be doing differently to any other point in time to “contribute and make It as successful as it can be“?

Moreover, why do we have to suffer something (not yet in place) that makes us worse off so that we have to “make the best of it”?


#2919

You might be… I’m not.

I don’t remember that being emblazoned across a large bus in 2016 either.